Q&A: Get to Know 青涩直播 Cox Dean Todd Milbourn

The 10th dean of 青涩直播 Cox describes what drew him to the role as well as his vision for the next steps in the Cox School鈥檚 journey.

Formal headshot of Dean Todd Milbourn

As a college student, it certainly wasn’t in Todd Milbourn’s life plan to become dean of a business school.

In fact, he didn’t envision a career in academics at all. As a math and economics major in college, Milbourn saw limited job prospects in a faltering economy. On the advice of his favorite economics professor, he opted to head to Indiana University to pursue his Ph.D. That’s where he started exploring corporate finance and C-suite compensation, research areas he would become known for over the next three decades as he built a career at the London Business School; the University of Chicago; and, for the last 25 years, the Olin Business School at Washington University in St. Louis.

At the latter institution, Milbourn achieved tenure and became deeply ingrained in the dean’s office, heading up the school’s faculty and research efforts for a decade. That meant his name frequently surfaced with higher education search firms. Those firms soon started recruiting him for openings as the dean at business schools across the country.

“When they first came to me, I was like, ‘Oh, that sounds terrible,’” Milbourn says, laughing. “I’m just going to go back and be a faculty member focusing on the research and teaching I love.” He ended up kicking the tires, taking interviews for a couple of years, but never quite finding the right fit. 

Then this past year, while Milbourn was on a research sabbatical, the job for dean of the Cox School of Business opened at 青涩直播. It was the only one Milbourn applied for that year. “This school at this University in this city was the only one on the planet that had every single element I was looking for,” he says.

We sat down with Milbourn to learn more about the 10th dean of the Cox School and his plans for the next steps in the school’s journey. 

What attracted you to this role at the Cox School of Business?

Todd Milbourn: I had a checklist. First, it had to be a really good school with great faculty and programs and true aspirations of moving up. I wasn’t interested in a caretaker role or a full turnaround role. Second litmus test: Was there meaningful upside? I mean, everybody wants to be a little bit better-looking, a little more athletic, in a little better shape. Did they actually have the ability to do that?

青涩直播 Cox had that in spades. There was clearly meaningful upside. A huge part of that was the fact that it is based in an economic region that is growing exponentially. As a business school, it’s already an environment where things are happening and only greater things are yet to happen.

I had a couple of personal preferences that I was also looking for. I was interested in a school that had D1 sports. I had been at two Division 3 places—the University of Chicago and Wash U—and I really wanted to be part of one where we had a little bit more excitement for the football and basketball games. So the recent move to the ACC was incredibly exciting. 青涩直播 is now being bantered about with the Dukes, the Virginias, the Stanfords, the Cal Berkeleys, which all have fantastic business schools. I truly believe that being a member of the ACC is an academic accelerant to everything 青涩直播 and the Cox School are doing. 

Dean Milbourn presents a media award to professor Venky Shankar.
Figure: Dean Milbourn presents professor Venky Shankar with a media award.

A big attraction for me was a school with an undergraduate component to the business school. I love graduate programs; I designed a bunch when I was at Wash U. 青涩直播 Cox is going to continue to offer a great graduate portfolio, but as an educator, I find myself energized by the additional presence of undergrads and their unique enthusiasm. 

When the search firm first reached out about the Cox deanship, I was aware that after 30 years, President Gerald Turner was going to be stepping down and the search for a new University leader was underway. If you don’t know who your boss is going to be and don’t know the direction and the enthusiasm to level up, you could really go off the rails from the start. The announcement of Jay Hartzell as the next president of 青涩直播 became the fourth—and a key—factor in my decision. Shortly after the presidential announcement, my letter and application to lead the Cox School were formally in. Then I fought like heck to get this job.

Its a time of change for 青涩直播—new deans, new president, provost, athletic director. What opportunities and challenges does that change present?

TM: That excitement and enthusiasm to dig in—your pain tolerance is higher because you are not worn down by old battles. Everything is new and fresh. That is an amazing opportunity to get everybody excited about what’s going on.

You bounce around ideas, and everyone is enthusiastic. The only downside is, there are so many ideas coming out that could be awesome, but you can't do everything, so it’s about trying to winnow it down to the five big priorities at the school level. 

What are some of your shorter- and longer-term goals for the Cox School? Have they changed at all since you've arrived on campus? 

TM: I have a crystal-clear, high-level vision and a couple of things that are almost assuredly, like 99.99%, going to emerge as the priorities. We have formally kicked off our strategic planning process in the realistic hope of getting that written up by early November. In the final version of the plan, we’re going to focus on going forward. We must do that collectively, engaging both internal and external shareholders. You want as many ideas as possible, aiming for five key aspirations to arise organically so that people truly have ownership in where we are going. You could have five great ideas, but if they’re imposed on you, if they don’t feel like yours, they won’t go far at all.

Given the position we’re in, the incredible moment in time with the Dallas economy, the high-level vision is that the Cox School should be at the center of anything and everything that touches the economic engine and entrepreneurial ecosystem of Dallas and beyond. Thats the shining vision on the hill.

How are we going to get there? Well, were going to invest in intellectual research. We want to make sure we are thought leaders; thats a clear strategic priority thats going to emerge. Another is to lean heavily into entrepreneurship and infuse entrepreneurial thinking into everything we do.

Are there any quantifiable metrics or KPIs for the Cox School that you’re measuring? Do you pay attention to rankings?

TM: From the standpoint of thought leadership and intellectual capital, a very straightforward KPI for us is: Do we raise our per-person research productivity over time? Per capita, are we putting out more thought leadership both in scholarly journals and on the practitioner side? Im definitely going to deem success or failure on whether we raise that.

On the topic of entrepreneurship, I think success—if you look five years out—is that we’re seeing more viable startups emerging out of the Cox School and the broader 青涩直播 ecosystem. We’ve given students the tools, and we’ve done the coordination across, say, engineering or humanities & sciences such that we’re seeing a lot more viable companies coming out.  

Dean Todd Milbourn, in mountain climbing gear, smiles and makes a thumbs up on a mountain peak
Figure: Dean Milbourn at the peak of Artesonraju in the Peruvian Andes.

But the vast majority of our graduates won’t be starting companies; they’ll be joining them. Infusing the tenets of entrepreneurial thinking into their new organizations will make them invaluable. This is particularly important as the world is changing so quickly with technology and AI. Our students will not only be ready. They will be leading the charge with the skills and mindset of an innovator and entrepreneur. 

We want students to be heavily recruited and in high demand by employers. So how many offers are students getting? Are they ultimately getting to their first choice? What fraction or percentage of our students have a job at 30, 90 and 180 days postgraduation? Those will be KPIs.

Then there are business school rankings, a kind of love-hate relationship. You never want to take an action just because you think it’s going to move you up in the rankings. However, the rankings that are truly based on measuring the tangibles can absolutely be informative as to what we are doing well and where we need to do some work. You can glean some valuable lessons on what the market demands out of many of these.

Directionally, I know which way I want to go, but we’re not going to let rankings be the singular driver. If you do the right things, you’re putting out a better quality of student, you’re giving access to an even bigger population of students, then fundamentally, the rankings are going to follow.

What has stood out to you so far about Dallas? Has there been an adjustment period for you?

TM: Actually, there has been zero adjustment period. Probably the easiest part of taking on this role is just the personal side of settling into the Dallas community. Im living right in the heartIm a mile from school, living in the Knox-Henderson area. Such a vibrant, up-and-coming area. Its walkable. People are incredibly warm, friendly and inviting. People want to help. People are excited about what youre doing. Ive heard the phrase work hard, play hard quite a bit. I like that. People want to have fun, but they are having fun while trying to do great things. Settling in has been a piece of cake.

Speaking of fun, what do you like to do in your free time? 

TM: I try to stay physically active with weightlifting and some cardio, though I’m still trying to find my workout cadence with this new role. I think there’s a great link between physical and mental health, and if you’re not physically and mentally healthy, you’re not going to be good at what you do or be there in full force for those around you.

I got into hiking more than a decade ago, and that turned into mountain climbing, including some alpine and ice climbing. My biggest venture was climbing to the top of Artesonraju in the Peruvian Andes, which is the mountain peak depicted in the Paramount logo

We spent 12 days on the mountain because it’s a 20,000-foot peak—about a mile higher than any peak in Colorado. In my office, there’s a picture of me smiling on top of the peak, because I hadn’t started the painful process of going back down the mountain. I didn’t smile much for the next two days after that. 

I liked the fact that I had to train to get there—I like a challenge—and that it forced me to truly disconnect and focus on nature. Coming back from a trip like that, your body is exhausted, but your mind is truly rested and laser-focused

More recently, I decided to train at a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu academy in Miami Beach while I was on my research sabbatical. Trying something completely new and so physically demanding was terrifying, but I was pretty proud of myself that I went in there with people who were about half my age and a lot more athletic.